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	<title>Comments on: Poker fun</title>
	<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/</link>
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		<title>by: d</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-316</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>pokerroom.com has support for Linux (java-based), both no external client support for Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pokerroom.com has support for Linux (java-based), both no external client support for Linux.
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		<title>by: giblet</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-315</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Er. You're assuming that DB give a hoot about interoperability.. The DB VPN is a combination of proprietary bought-in crud, and in-house crud, all windows based. I do have the alternative of using their &quot;desktop in a browser window&quot; TS client, or their webmail front end, all of which are (of course) dependant on IE5+.

(The webmail even has an activeX &quot;trojan scanner&quot; component :p)

95% of the users of the DB VPN access it through company laptops anyway so who cares, right?

Fact is (and I can kinda see this point), they don't actually *want* you to be able to connect interoperably with the bank's network. It's a bank. The *only* way they want you in their network is via their proprietary client which only runs on a specific windows version, forcibly virus/trojan scans your machine and uses a firewall to completely shutdown any other network routes you might have set up. (So you can't make their network an extension of yours and thereby open it up to exploitation by third parties) etc etc.

Anyway, not owning a company laptop, it means the simplest thing for me is to keep a machine around for connecting to work. Especially as their vpn client basically takes over the entire machine, it doesn't make it very useful for anything else..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er. You&#8217;re assuming that DB give a hoot about interoperability.. The DB VPN is a combination of proprietary bought-in crud, and in-house crud, all windows based. I do have the alternative of using their &#8220;desktop in a browser window&#8221; TS client, or their webmail front end, all of which are (of course) dependant on IE5+.</p>
<p>(The webmail even has an activeX &#8220;trojan scanner&#8221; component :p)</p>
<p>95% of the users of the DB VPN access it through company laptops anyway so who cares, right?</p>
<p>Fact is (and I can kinda see this point), they don&#8217;t actually *want* you to be able to connect interoperably with the bank&#8217;s network. It&#8217;s a bank. The *only* way they want you in their network is via their proprietary client which only runs on a specific windows version, forcibly virus/trojan scans your machine and uses a firewall to completely shutdown any other network routes you might have set up. (So you can&#8217;t make their network an extension of yours and thereby open it up to exploitation by third parties) etc etc.</p>
<p>Anyway, not owning a company laptop, it means the simplest thing for me is to keep a machine around for connecting to work. Especially as their vpn client basically takes over the entire machine, it doesn&#8217;t make it very useful for anything else..
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		<title>by: richlowe</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-314</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-314</guid>
					<description>Wait now, &quot;I have to keep a win32 machine around for the DB VPN.&quot;  *cough* IPsec, *cough* interoperable, *cough* standard.

(Please note that &quot;fun to setup&quot; isnt in that list).

isakmpd was a joy to set up, even with SSH Sentinel connecting to it.  Im yet to find anything to suggest racoon is anything less than a total pain in the ass however :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait now, &#8220;I have to keep a win32 machine around for the DB VPN.&#8221;  *cough* IPsec, *cough* interoperable, *cough* standard.</p>
<p>(Please note that &#8220;fun to setup&#8221; isnt in that list).</p>
<p>isakmpd was a joy to set up, even with SSH Sentinel connecting to it.  <acronym title="Instant Message">IM</acronym> yet to find anything to suggest racoon is anything less than a total pain in the ass however :)
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		<title>by: giblet</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-311</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sure - you expect these places to have linux clients or something? I have to keep a blows machine around anyway for the DB vpn so it's no skin off my nose :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure - you expect these places to have linux clients or something? I have to keep a blows machine around anyway for the DB vpn so it&#8217;s no skin off my nose :)
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		<title>by: miqorz</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-310</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Windows? Boo! :P</description>
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		<title>by: giblet</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-306</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, it's fun, which can be addictive ;)

I think I read somewhere that if you care about losing the money, you play like shit trying not to. Sounds about right to me, that's why I'm playing a 50c/$1 table =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s fun, which can be addictive ;)</p>
<p>I think I read somewhere that if you care about losing the money, you play like shit trying not to. Sounds about right to me, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m playing a 50c/$1 table =D
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		<title>by: richlowe</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-301</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I still believe the key to poker is to completely and utterly not give a fuck.  The moment you start caring things go wrong. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still believe the key to poker is to completely and utterly not give a fuck.  The moment you start caring things go wrong. :)
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		<title>by: dmron</title>
		<link>http://linuxbrit.co.uk/blog/2004/09/08/poker-fun/#comment-300</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>careful :) i used to play a lot of partypoker, its really addicting. luckily i quit while i was ahead, started with 50 dollars and last time i played i was at about 130.  well technically i still have my account with all that money sitting in it...... hmmm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>careful :) i used to play a lot of partypoker, its really addicting. luckily i quit while i was ahead, started with 50 dollars and last time i played i was at about 130.  well technically i still have my account with all that money sitting in it&#8230;&#8230; hmmm..
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